A packed interesting meeting.
Among our seven visitors was Hugh Williams who shot a war movie, Operation Nightmare, over 50 years ago, which starred a very slim, dark haired, John Bishop! Many membership forms were handed out, so fingers crossed!
The other special attendee to the meeting was our Elizabeth Nash. She observed proceedings silently, perched on four stacked chairs towards the back of the hall. She was our first online attendee, watching from Ballarat, sometimes waving, via a ZOOM session.
Norm reminded everyone that the next meeting, 1stMarch, was our 3rdQuarterly Film competition. Kevin Gorie will be talking Animation. Also, the 1stMarch meeting will kick off with our first technical Q&A session, starting at 7:00pm. The theme will be Video Editing and John Bishop will share some of the features of free DaVinci Resolve and Norm might talk about using cheap VideoPad for training. All welcome.
Gary Hegedus fired up the shorts session - TEN shorts this meeting. Awesome! Shorts have been by far the most popular innovation to the club in years. Once again the member’s imagination shone through. From the ‘laugh out loud’ to the beautiful and the warm, the investigative and the family ‘feel good,’ they were all there. Keep them coming, members. Topic for the next meeting is, ‘DON’T DO THAT.’
Due to circumstances, our original guest speaker had to withdraw, but a very busy Colin Parrȏt very magnanimouslyagreed to fill in the slot and gave us a most entertaining talk on what it’s like to be a producer of outdoor, lifestyle shows for commercial TV.
Colin was introduced by our own John Bishop. John and Colin have been friends and work colleagues for more years than either care to remember. If you’ve ever watched such shows on the box asWhat’s up Down under; Off road Adventure; Camper Trailer Lifestyle or River to Reef you have seen Colin’s work.
Colin’s first comment was very revealing; he noted the quality of our shorts and noticed ‘the fun’ in our movies. He pointed out that this is missing from commercial film making. For them it is just a job that has to be completed to the satisfaction of the customer before moving on to the next job. So there’s something we amateurs have over the pros – we ‘have fun’ doing what we do.
When directing, Colin pointed out that the restrained approach is far more likely to be effective than the forceful, demanding approach. A tip he gave to solve the problem of what to do with hands was also worth remembering. Put one in a pocket and occasionally make a gesture with the other one. Gesturing all the time loses its effectiveness. Varying light can cause problems when shooting outdoors and mirrors and shiny surfaces when shooting indoors.
Colin’s anecdotes (like the time he and John shared a bed together!) proved to be entertaining as well as instructive.
Our visitors were very complimentary and like the rest of us found the evening most enjoyable.
1STFeb meeting. ACTION!
2019 got off to a good start with many movies being shown and President, Norm, giving a rundown of what we might expect during the year ahead. He pointed out that for some time now Ron has also been doing things that are not strictly part of the Secretary’s job. Things like keeping in touch with other clubs we exchange videos with; maintaining the disc library; keeping Vimeo charged; keeping the data base of videos screened up to date; opening and closing our meeting rooms. These jobs, on their own, are not onerous. Norm invited members to give some thought to taking on any one of these jobs. Ron, meanwhile, will continue as Club Secetary.
How we communicate was reviewed. We have our web page, managed by Elizabeth, www.ringwoodmoviemakers.organd a Ringwood Movie Makers Facebook page, managed by Norm. But our primary method of communication is email and there have been hiccups, for many reasons, with our Rmmeveryone mail address. While we iron out the issues, including recalcitrant Gmail and Hotmail servers, one idea floated was to use a BCC group which members could use by ‘replying to all’. Expect some testing ahead.
Norm and Elizabeth trialed a ZOOM session prior to the meeting start. This is investigating whether we can offer a service to members who may not, for many reasons, be able to attend the meeting. This test is also looking at the possibility of having on-line membership. Andrew, who lives in in Phillip Island is a possibility. The session went quite well, with Norm’s laptop, using his mobile as a hotspot, displayed the meeting and sound pretty well. Elizabeth could, depending how we work it out, have also spoken to the group. All a member needs is a ZOOM client on his PC or mobile and he/she can watch the Shorts from Timbuktu.
Norm also aired the possibility of introducing training courses for a couple of hours (or 1.5 hrs) prior to our eight o’clock start. This time could be used for tech discussions on matters of interest. Members or maybe an outside expert could share knowledge, tricks or experience. To start off, a tech meeting on DaVinci Resolve was floated. Besides benefitting our own members, suitably advertised, they could also attract new members.
Also discussed was the Group movies format. There was a general ‘AYE’ by members asserting they were still interested in participating in group movies. How should the groups be formed was discussed. One approach, used with mixed success in the past, was to have an impartial (maybe random) selection of members into groups. The other method was to let people form their own groups. Scripts for the groups to work on was discussed. One possibility was to have a common thee ( like we use with Short Cuts) and let all the groups produce their own version if the theme. Another approach for scripting was to have a list of scripts (by Club members or outsiders) and let the Groups choose which script they would film. This subject is open for discussion.
John Millard pointed out that the next Take One is due next month. Our President and Secretary can be relied on to fill around three pages. Almost tearfully he begged for help in filling another dozen or so pages. A reward was offered for anyone who helps. One big, moist kiss per page. (Don’t let that put you off!). Elizabeth Nash, webmaster asked for more photographs of our movie making activities that would showcase what we do and who we are.
Awkward turned out to be not at all awkward judging from the number of ‘shorts’ that delighted us. Once again our member’s ingenuity was on display. There was everything from a father meeting his daughter in a massage parlour, gulls fighting next to a PEACE sign, a pregnant lady who wasn’t, unusual art to a stuff up at a funeral parlour – and more. Congratulations on the NINEmembers the effort.
2018 went out with a bang for RMM. The imagination and inventiveness of our members continues to amaze. A feast of movies kept us entertained, starting with our usual shorts which were based on ‘In Your Boot’. These ranged from the common pebble to a rock and a boot that was as bottomless as Santa’s sack. There was also a warning about what can happen if we don’t keep our feet clean and toenails cut! Being Christmas the shorts ended with one about baby Jesus. – Hilarious. The topic for the next Shorts is ‘Awkward.’ Non-compliance will be awkward, as you have 8 weeks to produce!
The quarterly comp was well supported with eight movies which ranged from travelogues to dramas and suicide. Geoff Ross’s ‘Wildlife of the Pantanal’ was judged number one with some spectacular footage, including sequences of the awesome Jaguar. Gary Dusting’s ‘Uluru Country’, was a popular second.
Then the food came out. Gourmet delights, from perfectly cooked snags and onions through diet busting, mouthwatering delicacies to a trifle that didn’t turn out as planned but tasted fine. And no-one over-indulged in the red wine. Then the impossible happened. With a ringing “Ho,Ho,Ho” Santa Claus arrived! He was obviously thrilled to be visiting RMM. His enthusiasm was infectious as he handed out his goodies and, of course, members gave him our usual, warm RMM reception.
Next year’s syllabus was there for collection; it’s something to look forward to, so until Feb 1st, to all our members, have a Happy Christmas and good movie making in 2019.
It was well after 11.00 before the last member left.
Text and photos supplied by Ron Fry
Those of you who deserted the club for the football missed a most enjoyable evening, and if you are a Tiger supporter a more entertaining one too.
Hot tea or coffee as you enter! Volunteer Chef Rob Frost is on a mission, and will also ensure the healthy herbals and crisp biscuits appear. For the foreseeable future this only leaves room for one more volunteer to attend Tea duty, apologies for the great disappointment this must cause.
Joe Magee was on Presentation media duty. Ably assisted Ron with the never ending battle against artificially stupid machines. But it must be noted that Joe outmatched Shorts-master Gary. He actually typed the new topic suggestions faster than Gary called them out!
Geoff Ross gave a report on his presentation to the Knox Photographic Society. About 40 or so members attended. Geoff displayed the equipment he uses and spoke on his approach to film making stressing in particular the transition photographers need to make to move from still photography to moving images. He feels there is the possibility some of the participants might be interested in making movies and joining RMM, though most are really interested in just integrating film with their stills.
Norman gave a report of the Club’s participation in the Ringwood Bunnings Community day on Sunday the 15th. John Millard, Robert Frost, Norman and wife Trudy made up the RMM team. Joe Magee was a backup if needed. About 12 community Groups participated including, Art, Stamp collecting, Men Shed, Rotary and many Children’s groups. The RMM team set up the club banner, a green screen and camera, and ran some club movies on an overhead TV. There were not many visitors to the club stand partly because of the location. One family did ask and had themselves filmed driving through Paris. Most people visiting Bunnings were preoccupied with their purchasing, and the few we spoke to were polite but confessed they were already involved in family or work. We did find a spark of interest among the other community groups and quite a few said they may approach us to collaborate with them to produce presentation or informative videos for their clubs. All in all a useful experience but we will probably give participating in the Bunning’s Community Days in the future a miss.
Where do our members get their ideas for the ‘shorts’? You may remember the topic was Multiculturalism. We travelled from Belgium to industry, food to junior footy, and did you know that one in seventy two of the world’s populations are refugees? Staggering, isn’t it? What are our members going to make of the next topic which is Red Herring. – but they do have until 19thOctober.
The main event of the evening was a talk by Colin Paxman. Colin is not a stranger to the club so we knew we were in for an enthralling time. Colin has been one of our regular judges for our Movie of the Year competition.
Colin films all the time, wherever and whenever he can. He currently produces, what he calls sketches, (one to two minute) promotional pieces of whatever event he happens to film at, and the work he showed us is very impressive. We travelled from Sydney’s Chinese gardens to the beautiful textures of outback sand dunes to the art of Melbourne’s laneways, to a White Night sequence. He is a member of the Melbourne PC User Group, participating in the Video SIG (Special Interest Group). Colin has produced and showed us an excellent promotional video for the group. Colin’s editing and matching of images to dynamic sound tracks is an excellent skill and produces very interesting footage.
Colin has his own production group called Filmagic productions (see Facebook). Working mainly with his co-founder Chris, they produce a Short ‘feature’ film (10-15 minutes) every two years. Colin writes the story, develops the storyboard and the shooting script, produces, directs and edits (Final Cut). All films have been shot on the Gold Coast where Chris, the camera and cinematographer lives. Several times during his talk he stressed that he works off micro budgets. The evening ended with a showing of A Case to Answer in which much blood was spilt.
You Richmond supporters would have got much more out of listening to Colin Paxman.
Don’t forget to invite and bring friends, relatives, acquaintances and anyone else you can think of to our meeting on 5thOctober, which will be our contribution to Seniors Week 2018. Even better if you can bring something to eat as well. ( The program was included in a previous email )
A special report by John Millard
Last night’s meeting was packed with interest and well appreciated by an audience boosted by several visitors.
We’ve accepted Bunnings invitation to be part of their Fun Day on Sept. 9th. What our part will be hasn’t yet been decided. Does anyone have any ideas? The committee is looking for inspiration, and of course, helpers on the day.
We were also reminded that there are five Fridays in this month and we all know what that means: dinner at the Ringwood Club, Croydon, 31stof August. Put it in your diaries and let Phyl Coffey know you’ll be there.
Crocodile proved to be a bit of a challenge for the ‘shorts’ as only four members took it up. All showed crocs standing on their tails reaching for a morsel that mostly jerked out of reach. Shouldn’t this teasing constitute cruelty to animals? There was also a Steve Irwin type sharing a very sudsy bath with a crocodile while two very long snakes looked on. Joe Magee and John Bishop capably handled the task of selecting the topic for next meeting – “Later On”
But the “hi-lite” of the evening was undoubtedly the talks given by Geoff Ross and new President, Norm. Both talks were about making movies, but from completely different viewpoints.
Geoff’s past life as a professional photographer came through as he demonstrated and talked about his equipment – all top quality, from Panasonic cameras to Leica lenses. Geoff now never has problems with that oft wrecker of outside shoots – the wind. But then maybe a $4,000 microphone would not attract too many copy cats in the club! Talking of highlights-that’s what Geoff exposes for.
He shoots in V Log for better dynamic range ..Geoff also insists on rock-steady images, and he demonstrated ways he manages to achieve this When asked about his narrator, Geoff said rather cryptically “he lives inside my computer” Apparently it is a synthesised voice based on a written script!
Geoff explained that his particular photographic interest is wildlife and some of the difficulties that go with recording it. The main one, of course, is the lack of co-operation from the wild animals. However, he showed with his brilliantEcuador Rain Forest movie that with sharp eyes and reflexes – and patience– problems can be overcome.
Norm looked at making movies from a completely different angle: the steps needed to get a story onto the screen. A power point presentation that started with a diagram linking the different stages of production from the narrative through to the final editing set the scene.
Having decided on the story to be told, it first has to be re-written into a form that can be filmed. This is the screen play. From this the script is developed. For this, there is a Standard Industrial Format which contains no instruction such as camera position, actor movements etc.
Norm said how useful he finds story boards. He finds it a valuable link between the pictures in his head and the final picture on the screen. Often, difficulties and/or better options can show up at this stage.
The shooting script is where a lot of time can be saved as the order of shooting is decided for convenience not alphabetically.
Editing is done in two stages, the second being to apply the polish, in other words, post production. Colour correction, brightness adjustments etc.
Norm finished with a short movie showing what is not Alzheimer’s.
It was the sort of night that is going to make us pause and think as we set down to work on our next production.
Thanks to all those who made the evening so worthwhile., and don’t forget that our next meeting is the first Quarterly Competition for the Club year 2018-9
Friday 6thJuly 2018
I have run out of superlatives to describe our nights.
To say last night was great is probably less than it deserves.
I think about thirty members and guests turned up. First time we’ve had to put out so many chairs. Any more and we would have to set up an outside screen!!
Some members we haven’t seen for a long while including John Kolenicz and Min Haering.
Our special guest once again was Heidi Victoria the MLA for Bayswater . She is a regular and always a friendly face. Her daughter Charly came as well. Heidi has a busy schedule and her visits are appreciated. She commented that if she had some free time she would join our club so take that as a compliment to our attitude.
It started well with me talking less than usual. I thought I’d managed to get a certain member (who shall be nameless, won’t we Barbara?), to take on supper duties. Amazing the excuses one can find. Bit like school days!!
Gary H once more hosted the shortcuts segment and the enthusiastic audience dug up 16 topics. The chosen one for this fortnight is ‘STUFF’.We all have lots of it so on you go.
There were four shortcuts on topic;
John M got some oldies to say which day of the week was best. All chose Friday for some reason.
I came up with the obvious reminder that next meeting on a Friday is you know what.
Norman did a clever number to a Paul McCartney song about Friday. June was the main star with support from Robert and Richard who, quite cleverly, mimed the song. I suppose they were all important.
Gary reminded us what it is like to rush out to get to the club – and then find out you are a week early. That has happened.
Gary also showed some drone footage from his holiday at Narooma. Mostly the coast, but I was concerned when he flew over a cemetery. Was he looking for a place to rest his head?
Then we went on to the Main event - Movie of the Year.
A short note about the Movie of the Year Judges;
Is a very unassuming person who has more letters than the post office. He has published numerous books on a wide range of subjects including Cinema.
He has been reviewing films for about 50 years.
So, we should be thankful that he was impressed with the movies he saw.
Is well known to us having visited and judged on many occasions. He has been making movies for about 50 years and entertained us with a presentation off movies made using a phone.
Has also been making movies for many years and is a member of Melb PC Users group. He has been a speaker here in the past and will visit again in September.
All of the judges commented on the high standard of the movies with one saying they should be paying us to see them.
In case some of you missed the screenings during the year I have some brief notes about the movies.
Find Out – Norman Lingwood
A stubborn person becoming quite irritable thinks he is heading for dementia but won’t be examined. After persuasion a medical condition is diagnosed and a cure effected.
The First Phone Call - Gary Dusting
A short history about telephones and a twist on the first recorded call.
St. Kilda – John Millard
A brief look at a remote island off the West Coast of Scotland.
Virtual Burglary– Gary Hegedus
A burglar thinks he has it easy when he meets a person absorbed in VR.
Your call is important to us– Richard Hallford
A cry for help gets the usual telephonic run around complicated by a phone which is faulty.
The Ancients– John Millard
Not about RMM, but a look at historical settlements off the coast of Scotland.
Larundle– Richard Hallford
Heidi described this as a bit scary. Anything to do with this institution must be scary. Comments include scary, well shot, well written and narrated, should be entered into the Tropfest competition.
Wishful Thinking– What you get when you trawl through other peoples hard rubbish. An old bottle and a generous Genie.
Rainforests of Ecuador– Geoff Ross
Something to challenge Sir David Attenbrough. Great shots and scenery.
The Shed– Joe Magee
You wouldn’t get these guys to build a shed for you. Shades of that great movie ‘The Plank’.
Since this was the third time I had seen the movies I was able to give some attention to the audience reactions. I believe they appreciated the content of all of the movies and showed it in their applause. A number of guests came to me later and said how they would like to come again.
Heidi too was enthusiastic in her in her comments and acknowledged the high standard of all of the movies.
In her usual fashion she took charge of the presentations of awards and the recipients responded. Smiles all round. She went on to help set the supper table while Barbara, Gary H and nearly Helmut made tea and coffee.
Food was great. Thank you to everyone. We might expect a late guest next meeting – missing out on cake.
The presentation on the night was smooth and professional. Well done Ron and Richard. I put Ron first as he is just a bit older than Richard.
Thanks to you all for helping to make another successful Movie of the Year.
Geoff Ross won Movie of the 'Year for Rainforests in Ecuador'.
Friday 15thJune 2018
This was intended to be a night in two parts. As it turned out, there were three, equally important, components to the evening.
Seventeen members turned up on a cool, chilly night, but it was warm in the hall.
As usual we started with the presentation of ‘shortcuts’.
The topic was ‘The Meaning of Life’. I’m told that this relates to an old movie called ‘The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy’.
Apparently the answer is 42. Don’t ask me. I never saw the movie!
That said, the interpretations of our members was varied a quite delightful and there were nine, yes nine on offer.
The next topic is FRIDAYS.
John Millard gave a well received talk about commentaries which he prefers to call ‘stories.
I believe his mantra is – if your movie is to tell a story, then your voice over should do the same.
He went on to discuss ways of speaking including the correct emphasis, clarity, not sounding as though it was being read from a paper and if you are not comfortable with the way it sounds, change it.
All good advice, and members comments afterwards indicated a good reception.
Handouts were available.
The third section of the night was given over to the running of promotional videos.
Again, quite a surprise, there were six. John Millard had three short movies.
Graham Wooley has made some constructive comments and I have sent these to you all in the hope that others might do the same.
Supper was efficiently presented by Barbara and me – get you next time Helmut. Don’t think being on holiday will allow you to escape.
Thank you Ron and Richard for driving the equipment. On that note Ron has asked for someone to take over the setting up before members arrive. Any offers before we nominate someone?
Ron has being doing this for years and it can’t be taken for granted that he will continue.
Kevin did a good job of getting money from you all.
Thank you all for turning up. To those going on holiday, safe journey for you and your camera. Remember to charge the batteries.
Next meeting is Movie of the Year, so come along and bring a friend or neighbour or ????
My usual round up from our last meeting on Friday 1stJune.
It was another good night. A quarterly competition as well as the ‘shortcuts’.
The shortcuts theme was ‘Danger’, and, as usual, there were quite different interpretations..Gary H showed how we can be taken over by drones. Real Star Wars stuff this. He did recover from the attack to show the footage. (should that be ‘metreage’?).
John Bishop gave us real life danger. Some guy had a Croc and snakes in the bath – with him. We went on to see a big croc take another. Probably easier than grabbing meat off a dangling line.
Kevin brought to the fore how many ‘danger’ signs we have to deal with almost every day, and finally,
A small group filmed a search for a spider named Boris. The poor Tarantula looked awfully flat on the back of its distraught owner.
The next shortcuts theme is ‘The Meaning of Life’. Go to it.
Then on to our competition.
There were ten entries with a wide range of topics. One member (and I shan’t mention your name Richard) had four entries and co-operated in a couple of others. Who said crikey? I’m sure that was a first for the Club!
One movie challenged that famous one ‘The Plank’. I want to know who played Charlie Drake?
Others included an Interview, a look at Olinda Falls, a story about Dementia, a singer, and a new look at events on the Titanic.
Thanks to everyone who entered.
Thanks also to Ron and Richard for driving the mechanisms, and to Lloyd for sitting in and learning about the process. Look out for another volunteer next meeting.
Brian managed to coax some of your hard earned cash from your pockets and, once again, Mrs Hallford (Joan), struck a bargain with Geoff to get into the kitchen. Thank you all.
What impressed me on the night was the obvious co-operation between members in producing movies. This should auger well for the groups, but I think some are having difficulty in getting started.
Come on folks, It only needs a little idea, and a lot of enthusiasm.
At our next meeting John Millard will be talking about commentaries. Perhaps a chance for some interactive discussion.
That will be followed by the large numbers of short promotion movies you have prepared – won’t it?
Movie of the year is fast approaching, as is the Grand Finale to our Club year. Keep the dates free.
A reasonable turnout last night, although, I must admit to having concerns as 8.00pm approached.
Once again we started with ‘shortcuts’. Numbers were down a little, but the content was varied. Only two were on topic, but that doesn’t really matter. The most important feature is that members are making movies.
June had the letter ‘T’, floating around the screen, to music. Obviously this took a while to sort through the many fonts and using ‘motion’ attributes of the editing program. We could appreciate the effort put into the movie. Gary D (old Gary) had many ways of using ‘T’, ‘Tee’, Tea’, and so on, but ended with a risqué version of a young lady calling herself something ‘Tease’. If I’ve spelled it correctly. Who can remember the first name??? We’ll need to watch that again.
Young Gary showed a short movie entitled ‘It wasn’t me’. A real excuse for forgetting his homework. I didn’t get away with that at school.
Kevin puts in a lot of time with animation and we saw the fruits of his labour last night. Using green screen and a 3D program he had Gary running the same Gary through with a ‘broadsword’. Not too gruesome – there wasn’t any blood.
The topic for next meeting is DANGER. Plenty of that around, so, cameras to the ready.
About 17 members listened patiently as John Millard, Gary Dusting and I mentioned experiences within the Club since we joined.
I presented some excerpts from old movies in the context of a timeline for the Club.
Gary gave some detailed descriptions about equipment used with film, aided by ‘young’ Gary and the camera on his laptop. This enabled the audience to see detail on the big screen. There was a lot of interest and quite a few questions and comments.
John rounded out the session with some reminiscences about events within the Club since he joined. Again, a number of members asked questions and discussed events.
Although only four of us are dated enough to remember much of what was discussed, it appeared that most enjoyed the presentations. Those who do go back a bit saw themselves in much younger state. Oh Dear!
Ron had copied excerpts from some of the Club Movies and presented these to finish the evening.
Next meeting is our last quarterly competition for the club year.
Kevin has asked that entrants let him know, title, running time, if comments are needed and any other relevant information. This will reduce the amount of work to do on the night.
As a result of my issuing the wrong notes earlier, I am now able to add my thanks to Ron, Richard and Kevin for driving the equipment last night. Ron has asked for a member to ‘sit in’ with the drivers so that a few can assist in times of ‘stress’. That is when Ron is indisposed. Richard is a great help, but who knows when they both might be away.
Thanks also to Graham for quietly starting the supper and Lloyd for helping out.
On the horizon is our AGM. For anyone who wonders what that means, it is Annual General Meeting. This is the time to volunteer for those duties on the committee. All positions will be declared vacant. Keep this in mind. It is the positions that are vacant not the Office Bearers!!
It has been known for someone not present to be nominated. Of course he agreed beforehand.
Take care. Stay out of danger, but if you do happen to find yourself in trouble – make sure you have your camera handy.
Greetings all – well Jack didn’t make it , and a number of others couldn’t attend for various reasons, but I have to tell you they missed out on a very interesting evening.
Even with numbers down we had 4 Shortcuts – “Cows” - June made sure you knew what cows looked like, John Bishop gave us a drone view of moving cattle, I listed a few facts about cows, and Helmut and Barbara couldn’t resist all the puns involving cows. We even listed the 16 possibilities for next meeting – the random choice was “Keep the T’s Going”. Thanks to Helmut who assisted with projection, and to all those who helped in setting up, supper, and leaving everything in order.
Lloyd also showed a short movie he’d made at Norman’s U3A course – a ghostly librarian. Congratulations to Lloyd and Norman – the 8 week course had turned out a number of fine efforts.
Then Geoff Ross showed excellent videos by Abraham Joffe, Darren Jew and Richard I’Anson – wildlife , travel, underwater and drone – Geoff has travelled with these people, and was able to give us insights as to the equipment they used, and the time and patience they needed to get the results shown. Look them up on Google to see some examples.
Hi I am Jack,